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In Russia in the 1780s Ivan Kulibin started working on an automobile. He finished working on it in 1791. Some of it's features were a Flywheel, Brake, Gear box, and Bearing. His design had three wheels. Unfortunately, like many of his inventions, the government havent seen it's marketing potential and ignored it.[6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
In Russian when you write his name and automobile you get many links at Google, but I havent found any in English. Please help. Moscovite Knight (talk) 15:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
According to the English source you provided and the diagrams on the Russian sources, this vehicle was pedal-powered. Is this correct? Does it belong in the automobile article?Dino246 (talk) 15:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The article on Ivan Kulibin also describes this vehicle as being pedal-powered. I'm reluctant to delete the reference to it on the automobile page without being able to understand the Russian sources and confirming. However, if it was indeed powered by the driver then it was not an auto-mobile and isn't really relevant to this article, (interesting though it may be).Dino246 (talk) 14:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
According to the Russian sources, it was powered on electricity and it had a steam engine, which was something Kulibin used in general to try on ships and stuff. I mean, if it would be a huge bisycle how would it have a gear box? It was an automobile. Moscovite Knight (talk) 16:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
[Unindent] The sources used for this section are under dispute. Please see Talk:History of the automobile for further discussion, and if you might be able to provide Reliable Sources (and/or translations of Russian webpages) to support the assertions made.[Large quantity of text copy-and-pasted by Anon IP user: removed and summarised by user
In Russia in the 1780s Ivan Kulibin started working on an automobile. He finished working on it in 1791. Some of it's features were a Flywheel, Brake, Gear box, and Bearing. His design had three wheels. Unfortunately, like many of his inventions, the government havent seen it's marketing potential and ignored it.[6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
In Russian when you write his name and automobile you get many links at Google, but I havent found any in English. Please help. Moscovite Knight (talk) 15:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
According to the English source you provided and the diagrams on the Russian sources, this vehicle was pedal-powered. Is this correct? Does it belong in the automobile article?Dino246 (talk) 15:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The article on Ivan Kulibin also describes this vehicle as being pedal-powered. I'm reluctant to delete the reference to it on the automobile page without being able to understand the Russian sources and confirming. However, if it was indeed powered by the driver then it was not an auto-mobile and isn't really relevant to this article, (interesting though it may be).Dino246 (talk) 14:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
According to the Russian sources, it was powered on electricity and it had a steam engine, which was something Kulibin used in general to try on ships and stuff. I mean, if it would be a huge bisycle how would it have a gear box? It was an automobile. Moscovite Knight (talk) 16:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
[Unindent] The sources used for this section are under dispute. Please see Talk:History of the automobile for further discussion, and if you might be able to provide Reliable Sources (and/or translations of Russian webpages) to support the assertions made.[Large quantity of text copy-and-pasted by Anon IP user: removed and summarised by user
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